/s4s/ - anime pillow fight

i think ftms have enough presence of mind to know they will never be able to progress beyond the "teenage boy" stage of male passing, so they stop trying after they get soft boy aesthetics, they want what they "perceive" to be the societal "benefits" of being male while not really leaving any of the aesthetics behind, it's really bizarre.

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>>61528 (OP) 

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My niece is ftm and she has a weird fixation with growing body hair and being "all natural". Which is just a fancy way of saying not showering very often and not shaving her armpits. I think ftms want to purposly look sexually unappealing when compared to conventional female beauty standards. I think they hate the idea of being objectified by the male gaze and want to rebel against it out of spite. Hence the piercings, tatoos, swearing and even the casual abrasive attitude. My niece is a nice person but she swears all the time and just casually insults people thinking it's cool or edgy. She calls me a "dumbass" and sometimes tells me to "shut the fuck up" but in a way that isn't meant to be malicious but instead kinda playful. I think it's weird how ftms aren't actually trying to act like "men" but instead a weird inverse parody of women.

>>61531
How the fuck is that weird
they don't want to be women

it's not like there's such a thing as men in any coherent or meaningful way but obviously they have a social expectation of girlishness that exists in their head that they're trying to escape from

so they try to escape from it

where is the contradiction?

>>61533
you see, in decades past they would just be tomboys
i will never forgive trans

have these cunts even considered my fetish???

>>61535
girls would rather nuke their ovaries than appeal to the male gaze